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	<description>The murder victim? Your library assumptions. Suspects? It could have been any of us.</description>
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		<title>By: hdc</title>
		<link>http://www.inthelibrarywiththeleadpipe.org/2009/narrating-the-back-story-through-e-learning-resources-in-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-1806</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good topic idea Michele - we haven&#039;t had a chance to work on any new modules since we&#039;re trying to work on improving the presentation, promotion and assessment of the existing ones. You can subscribe to our youtube channel so when we do get around to new uploads you&#039;ll be notified: http://www.youtube.com/user/libncsu

Thanks for posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good topic idea Michele &#8211; we haven&#8217;t had a chance to work on any new modules since we&#8217;re trying to work on improving the presentation, promotion and assessment of the existing ones. You can subscribe to our youtube channel so when we do get around to new uploads you&#8217;ll be notified: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/libncsu" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/libncsu</a></p>
<p>Thanks for posting!</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Hayslett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Hayslett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kim and Hyun-Duck.  Is there an update?  Have you finished other modules?  Another one that I think would be useful is Plagiarism in 5.  I&#039;d also like to second the comment of others about how great it is that you&#039;ve done this so others can use it, both in content and with the CC license.  Really terrific since many of us don&#039;t have access to the kinds of student resources that you used!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim and Hyun-Duck.  Is there an update?  Have you finished other modules?  Another one that I think would be useful is Plagiarism in 5.  I&#8217;d also like to second the comment of others about how great it is that you&#8217;ve done this so others can use it, both in content and with the CC license.  Really terrific since many of us don&#8217;t have access to the kinds of student resources that you used!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Duckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Duckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since that link didn&#039;t work here&#039;s the URL:
http://projectinfolit.org/pdfs/PIL_ProgressReport_2_2009.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since that link didn&#8217;t work here&#8217;s the URL:<br />
<a href="http://projectinfolit.org/pdfs/PIL_ProgressReport_2_2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://projectinfolit.org/pdfs/PIL_ProgressReport_2_2009.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim Duckett</title>
		<link>http://www.inthelibrarywiththeleadpipe.org/2009/narrating-the-back-story-through-e-learning-resources-in-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Duckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Karrie, for your thoughtful comment! Thanks also, Derik, for the kind words regarding our blog post. Hyun-Duck and I definitely valued your feedback.

Karrie and Others: If you haven&#039;t seen Alison Head and Michael Eisenberg&#039;s recent study &lt;a href=&quot;What Today&#039;s College Students Say About Conducting Research in the Digital Age, please take a look. It&#039;s a fascinate study of how students grapple with getting more &quot;context&quot; to understand their assignments.

-- Kim Duckett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Karrie, for your thoughtful comment! Thanks also, Derik, for the kind words regarding our blog post. Hyun-Duck and I definitely valued your feedback.</p>
<p>Karrie and Others: If you haven&#8217;t seen Alison Head and Michael Eisenberg&#8217;s recent study &lt;a href=&#8221;What Today&#8217;s College Students Say About Conducting Research in the Digital Age, please take a look. It&#8217;s a fascinate study of how students grapple with getting more &#8220;context&#8221; to understand their assignments.</p>
<p>&#8211; Kim Duckett</p>
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		<title>By: Derik Badman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derik Badman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyun and Kim, I&#039;m late to rereading this, but I wanted to say you made great improvements over the draft I read. I appreciate the extra details about your tutorial creation process. Your article is a great blending of theory and practice.

Extra kudos for putting a CC license on the tutorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyun and Kim, I&#8217;m late to rereading this, but I wanted to say you made great improvements over the draft I read. I appreciate the extra details about your tutorial creation process. Your article is a great blending of theory and practice.</p>
<p>Extra kudos for putting a CC license on the tutorial.</p>
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		<title>By: Karrie Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.inthelibrarywiththeleadpipe.org/2009/narrating-the-back-story-through-e-learning-resources-in-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Karrie Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great subject - three cheers to the authors for their clear thinking and writing on this topic.

I once heard someone I admire say that what we think of as &quot;being smart&quot; can also be described as &quot;consistently making good choices.&quot;  This fits with my view of multiple intelligences -- smart people do the right things with their time, say the right things to others, go about solving problems efficiently, etc.  To me, making good choices requires having the right kind of back story, that&#039;s what intelligent intuition comes from.

Another way to think of the back story is that we are helping students develop &quot;systems thinking.&quot;

I never &quot;get it&quot; when people give me a lot of rules -- first aid was taught to me that way when I was in highschool and it was a confusing maze.  Far more helpful would have been some understanding of physical systems, so that in coping with unique emergencies I would have intelligent intuitions about what to do. A closer-to-home example is observing the way people go about trying to solve IT-related problems when they have no intuition about whether the sort of problem they are looking at is coming from their machine, their local network, or an external website. Usually highly ineffective and frustrating! 

Too often I have encountered students who are stumped or blocked because they have been taught tool use instead of the back story.  The &quot;get full text&quot; button we use between our indexes and our fulltext subscriptions is a good example.  It often does things that students don&#039;t expect, and then they become stumped or confused, because they see it only as tool, and not as part of a system.  It sounds to me like the comment above about understanding algorithmic search and &quot;what happens when you hit the search button&quot; is just the sort of thing I am talking about as systems thinking.

Another example I would offer is the way students are often taught to narrow or broaden their search when using article databases, and the justification for doing so is because they got &quot;too much stuff&quot; or &quot;not enough stuff.&quot;  When addressing a research question or a problem, the task is to think of the facets or contours of your research question.  How does my question fit into the scope of issues in the field?  How have people answered my problem or others like it?  Are their more than one set of theories involved, with different schools of thought?  We need to be teaching students to use our research resources as part of a research process, not just to get more or less stuff.

I think students can become smarter --even without our intervention-- once they have the overview of the systems they are using.  Systems thinking, or the back story, allows them to usefully reflect on their processes and use their critical thinking skills to formulate strategy.  We will never get there only providing students with rules or checklists.  Recently I saw a tutorial about evaluating resources that asserted that resources found on an .edu or .gov website were generally reliable. As a former gov docs librarian, I would not have said that.  I explained to students about how different branches of the govt were beholden to diff stakeholders -- and let them decide how to evaluate and use the annual report from an executive branch agency, in which the agency head works at the pleasure of the President.

Providing the back story feels to me like our best value-add, and I think the authors have hit upon a very practical way to re-tool ourselves in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great subject &#8211; three cheers to the authors for their clear thinking and writing on this topic.</p>
<p>I once heard someone I admire say that what we think of as &#8220;being smart&#8221; can also be described as &#8220;consistently making good choices.&#8221;  This fits with my view of multiple intelligences &#8212; smart people do the right things with their time, say the right things to others, go about solving problems efficiently, etc.  To me, making good choices requires having the right kind of back story, that&#8217;s what intelligent intuition comes from.</p>
<p>Another way to think of the back story is that we are helping students develop &#8220;systems thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I never &#8220;get it&#8221; when people give me a lot of rules &#8212; first aid was taught to me that way when I was in highschool and it was a confusing maze.  Far more helpful would have been some understanding of physical systems, so that in coping with unique emergencies I would have intelligent intuitions about what to do. A closer-to-home example is observing the way people go about trying to solve IT-related problems when they have no intuition about whether the sort of problem they are looking at is coming from their machine, their local network, or an external website. Usually highly ineffective and frustrating! </p>
<p>Too often I have encountered students who are stumped or blocked because they have been taught tool use instead of the back story.  The &#8220;get full text&#8221; button we use between our indexes and our fulltext subscriptions is a good example.  It often does things that students don&#8217;t expect, and then they become stumped or confused, because they see it only as tool, and not as part of a system.  It sounds to me like the comment above about understanding algorithmic search and &#8220;what happens when you hit the search button&#8221; is just the sort of thing I am talking about as systems thinking.</p>
<p>Another example I would offer is the way students are often taught to narrow or broaden their search when using article databases, and the justification for doing so is because they got &#8220;too much stuff&#8221; or &#8220;not enough stuff.&#8221;  When addressing a research question or a problem, the task is to think of the facets or contours of your research question.  How does my question fit into the scope of issues in the field?  How have people answered my problem or others like it?  Are their more than one set of theories involved, with different schools of thought?  We need to be teaching students to use our research resources as part of a research process, not just to get more or less stuff.</p>
<p>I think students can become smarter &#8211;even without our intervention&#8211; once they have the overview of the systems they are using.  Systems thinking, or the back story, allows them to usefully reflect on their processes and use their critical thinking skills to formulate strategy.  We will never get there only providing students with rules or checklists.  Recently I saw a tutorial about evaluating resources that asserted that resources found on an .edu or .gov website were generally reliable. As a former gov docs librarian, I would not have said that.  I explained to students about how different branches of the govt were beholden to diff stakeholders &#8212; and let them decide how to evaluate and use the annual report from an executive branch agency, in which the agency head works at the pleasure of the President.</p>
<p>Providing the back story feels to me like our best value-add, and I think the authors have hit upon a very practical way to re-tool ourselves in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: RIOT - EXERCISE (?): Information Literacy and Cognitive Authority</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIOT - EXERCISE (?): Information Literacy and Cognitive Authority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thinking a lot about tutorials lately, and found this great post Narrating the “Back Story” Through E-learning Resources in Libraries from the blog In the Library with the Lead Pipe. Here librarians at NCSU Libraries talk about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thinking a lot about tutorials lately, and found this great post Narrating the “Back Story” Through E-learning Resources in Libraries from the blog In the Library with the Lead Pipe. Here librarians at NCSU Libraries talk about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: why recreate the wheel&#8230; &#171; first conclusions</title>
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		<dc:creator>why recreate the wheel&#8230; &#171; first conclusions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on a blog post (Narrating the “Back Story” through E-learning Resources in Libraries) at In the Library With the Lead Pipe where they this discuss project in more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hyun-Duck Chung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyun-Duck Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Emily for your supportive comments! Your mention of the term &#039;competency&#039; also reminded me of something we didn&#039;t talk about in the post - that creating these videos (maybe) can play a role in communicating to those outside the LIS profession that librarians&#039; expertise span across a broad array of information topics. I think this is something that many people in our profession - and have to admit sometimes I - have a hard time articulating clearly :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Emily for your supportive comments! Your mention of the term &#8216;competency&#8217; also reminded me of something we didn&#8217;t talk about in the post &#8211; that creating these videos (maybe) can play a role in communicating to those outside the LIS profession that librarians&#8217; expertise span across a broad array of information topics. I think this is something that many people in our profession &#8211; and have to admit sometimes I &#8211; have a hard time articulating clearly :)</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes! I truly think that this model for instructing users is not just a matter of creating more competency and confidence in our users, but also a matter of catering to different learning styles. I, myself, am a visual learner who always asks why. Why-askers really need these back stories to fully engage in discourse and interact with information. By providing this instructional model (and sharing it with your library colleagues) you are really doing a great service for tons of people out there. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes! I truly think that this model for instructing users is not just a matter of creating more competency and confidence in our users, but also a matter of catering to different learning styles. I, myself, am a visual learner who always asks why. Why-askers really need these back stories to fully engage in discourse and interact with information. By providing this instructional model (and sharing it with your library colleagues) you are really doing a great service for tons of people out there. Thanks!</p>
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